Militant anti-smoking constantly caught offside

(Photo: Margarete Bause) Even Margarete Bause (Green) distanced himself from militant anti-smokers

Militant anti-smoking groups maneuvered himself increasingly estranged from it. Even the Bavarian allies to ban madness now go on clearance, they know that the fanaticism of these groups can hardly sell the people.

First, the front man of the ban proponents, Sebastian Frankenberger (ÖDP) had announced that he would not contest the exception of the Bavarian smoking ban law ( News reported smoking ). Now distance themselves even the Greens, which is otherwise not prohibited to jump on the populist to Verbotswahnzug, by their militant allies. As reported, "online image", Green Party leader Margaret Bause said today in Munich, one should not be more Catholic than the Pope. Literally Bause said: "As to lead a fight to the last Aschestäubchen, I think next to it."

The "Non smoking Initiative Munich" (NIM) and the militant anti-smoking group "Pro smoke free," which denies, according to "star" smoking man human dignity and is considered by many people simply called "pro brain-free" had to in press releases to the exclusion rule in the enforcement notices Bavarian No smoking, foaming at the mouth drooling. Ernst-Günther Krause called the NIM CSU Health Minister Markus Söder, "not just as a bad loser, but as lawbreakers" who make a "red herring from the tobacco lobby."

Krause takes it, how it is used by militant anti-smokers, deep in the half-truths box. He refers to Baden-Wuerttemberg, because there is not anchored in his words "timely exceptions to the smoking ban" in the local law. Krause seems to forget that Baden-Wuerttemberg are exceptions permitting. In some small pubs or in adjoining rooms. In this respect, a comparison with the Bavarian smoking ban unfair and populist. But comparing apples to oranges belongs to the daily bread of militant anti-smoker.

Pro also smoke-free "protested vehemently against such a blatant form of perversion of justice". It is further noted in a statement that it "all means" use would be to prevent the Bavarian exception rule. If you look at the previous comments on Pro Smokeless looks, one can be against this, "all means" fear and worry. The board member of the group, Patrick Kast had, under the pseudonym "bog gentian" in the forum of militant anti-smokers, the association aims to "smoke-free society" is uttered several times threats against smoking. He read, for example: "If someone in my presence ignites in a normal restaurant again a cigarette, then I guarantee for nothing. Then there is war. The person can then be glad if I would just pour wine into his face. "

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  1. Specifically, observers

    Rachow and his militant mob fanatics are kicked out at the next forum hosting. After they were already no longer tolerated in the previous hoster because of her bullying, she has also kicked the next provider. Good thing. This militant kooks, nobody should give a platform for their hatred and provocations.

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    • One round of pity for his rabble-Peter with many aliases, and then you can again turn to sensible activities. Every minute you spend with stalkers and Pöblern is wasted time that you can use more appropriate.

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  2. Frankenberger is the Geyerwally in Glockenbachviertel not served by the landlord, Rainer Maria Strixner. Frankenberger is thrown in from the forest Kirchner festival marquee. Thus did the long-haired dachshund from Passau his triumph of 4 Certainly not presented in July.

    The newspapers report about the above incidents rather briefly or not at all about their favorite S. Frankenberger, who is with the simple and ordinary people not as popular as you can see. In today's world, where the opinion of the population depends on many of the newspapers and the media, this power was abused by the people to move to the popular vote with a "YES" to vote. It was also on the ballot the question "Do you agree with a real protection to Non smoking?" Steered in a direction not neutral. Anyone who has committed a crime that would have to be punished hard normally. Only then could 2.14901 million voters / inside move to "YES" to vote. 4 years ago, which still have not hounded media and a Non smoking alliance, it would have no guarantees given 1 million votes in favor. The media and the Whip Non smoking front would make the people-oriented and that is a Brimstone (butterfly) folds lemons, a codling moth (Made) wrapped apples, a cow, as advertised, is purple and so on, if need be. That something is believed, proves Friedrich Wiebel's slogan "children would choose smoke-free beer tents."

    The vote is over and the Moor (p. Frankenberger) has done his duty. As can be seen the recent photos in which S. Frankenberger still looks skinny and unhealthy, noticed this also seems to be the dawn gradually. The revolution eats its children, but this gets more and more new issues in order to forget. It will be rather lonely in the future for the fighters of the "fresh air".

    What remains is a completely senseless act, the citizens patronized and much of the fun and the cohesion of the people had been destroyed. Franz Müller from the mountain with his VEBWK
    Prophecy had a right to that with a victory of "YES", the company splits.

    I for one am glad that I was so "rubbish", as the total ban on smoking and its consequences does not have to answer for my conscience. The hard-liners of the JA-Teller Bpündnisses and their allies but apparently no conscience.

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  3. smoki

    No red carpet for franki

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    • Bernhard

      "" I did not expect that it will end that way, "says Frankenberg somewhat surprised"

      Help! - What did he expect it?

      House ban in the entire restaurant and Bavarian beer tents in all the least, reckoned what he.

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  4. smoki

    berger francs in the cave of smoking fans: Source: http://www.tz-online.deMünchen - yet the young man standing on a wall. His long dark hair, he wears openly, they shine in the sun. He's going to go into a smoking pub. Not for pleasure, nein.Fürs television - the camera crew is waiting. He is a man in demand, since 4 July. On this day, 2.1 million voted for the strictest smoking ban in Bavaria, Germany. His success. He was the initiator. For many, Sebastian Frankenberger (28) since the absolute hate figure. Today, however, wants of the Passau in the lion's den. The Geyerwally in Glockenbachviertel he has chosen. At the front door hangs a sign: "I can not clean," including a photo of him. Then he enters the cult pub, the camera crew in tow. Confrontation known as the call in the other fernsehgeschäft.Überrumpelung it. "Do I drink to you what," asks Frankenberger. No, says the host. "You get nothing here. You're persona non grata. "Rainer Maria Strixner is none that can be taken by surprise. "I'll give anyone, the other patronized." I go to him to health, that this was a good thing, says Frankenberger. "I key 'is still itself, what does me good. And my guests can too, "says Rainer Maria Strixner. He was self-Non smoking, and his wife Christa. "If it'd bother me, I can ban smoking's. If yes my pub. I do not need no law proscriptive me and my guests. "This is not a talk show, seasoned Bayern sit here, the Sebastian Frankenberger notes quickly.
    "I can not hear you talk. All memorized phrases, "complains
    a guest and lights a cigarette. "What's next? ? Smoking in the apartment "Frankenberger of sets," What would you say if there would be a product that ... "He is interrupted. Simple question, straight answer please. "In ten years of cigarettes are banned," predicts Frankenberger. "Like other drugs too." After ten minutes passed, the television crew and Sebastian Frankenberger. Prior to the smoking ban is the pub-initiator: "In Munich, the old Non smoking Protection Act has worked. In my hometown of Passau is not. "

    He did not have a bar, found no pub where he was smoking a cocktail drink. He will have a hard time in the future - many economists have also given him banned from there.
    in the 10 years does not get updated very often zigis more ..... wenns goes after him!

    http://www.tz-online.de/aktuelles/muenchen/frankenberger-hoehle-rauchfans-860769.html

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    • @ Smokie: It is not only worthy of rejection and Sebastian Frankenberger local bans. Vieklmehr include the "Frankenbergers" as Friedrich Wiebel, Theresa Schopper, Kathrin sun Holzner, Natascha Kohnen, Ernst Günther Krause, Patrick Kast, Siggi Ermer, George Schmid and many others more so.

      Granted, it distracts from very good to be nailed down all the frustration and all the blame on one person. In addition, one could, as I do, bekennente answer YES voters with contempt and dismissal of friendship.

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      • smoki

        clearly you're right. The main cause was but he and the others have Schüttelschorsch.die hintendran gehängt.und like the chopper I've also seen them live then at the rally on the wiesn.was be going on that one wonders how these people ever come into politics . they're there ok ... Eventually, when will the chaos and Germany bans smokers aware of the suffering, and when pressure is rising .. caused by the Antis then yes it will be Germany's smoking policy umdenken.und the carousel is again drehen.Und people ala chopper etc are out of sight again want to say verschwinden.Ich that is a personal request from me thinking if it is so or not is undecided ... rather it will be like the many smokers may simply not be beaten geben.Ich believe that should have been and we are living under this dictatorship müssen.auch I had to separate myself and friends that I even did a very happy later to be I say they were not to me so fallen.man in the back faces are living in two time winner and this will eventually also have to be losers again because I will continue to evaporate from sicher.Ich basta. I only do the small farmers suffering going on it, but maybe have the colleagues of the Oktoberfest a heart and save the pub death of the little by generous Spenden.und yet what the last: veileicht does so the frigorist times the vebwk leads and this club ... where Also lost is lost no matter ..... I get the genuine crisis now

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      • Frigorist

        @ Smoki ....... the VEBWK has been lost and have been doing over time.
        No later than the referendum to educate people as much as nothing was done intentionally, which were then signed by faschen conditions due to the lies of the Antis, the referendum.
        At that time it would have taken relatively few financial resources and it would surely have contrived to prevent through effective education, the 40 and 000 signatures to push them under at least 25 000.
        But the political adviser to the VEBWKs it had so advised the Board to keep quiet.
        And is the current Board of VEBWK not out of his hands, he needs the VEBWK yet and therefore he hopes that the same will exist as long as possible.
        I have therefore a certain suspicion. why is it so happened as it has just arrived. Maybe it had to be so and has thereby secured VEBWK its existence as far as he is indeed still needed, from whatever quarter.
        Namely, as long as the respective hosts still have a hope, it could alter the fate of the current ban on smoking in the restaurant businesses is still something, but still used the VEBWK.
        I will now not go into detail on the matter and leave it to each individual and his own thinking. And if he then 1 + 1 together, is one he comes to the same suspicion as I do.
        Of course you have here some background information to consider in order to come through a recognition of a correct result.
        Werner Meier and down a few "veterans" know what I am talking about.
        (Should be), it was us once before vorexerziert clearly what the VEBWK is profitable and when so many people had the presidency of a side entry then get a much better place in the list in a certain situation, then it would have then worked out quite nicely.
        That's all I want now to the whole thing and therefore can not not comment further out on a limb. Now it happens to even the way it is and it comes as it comes and maybe it is indeed really as some people imagine it to.
        You have the soup (or whatever else) in any case, keep on cooking.
        And this is called politics, or even diplomacy!

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  5. Frigorist

    Bernhard ...... in your entry at 28.07. in response to the stubborn Allgäu I must say to you: "It has all the smokers supporters pulled at a rope, and this also in the same direction, but it just was not enough!"
    And the lack of lack of awareness on the part of the press was from the outset to expect otherwise, because the tobacco industry is the ban on advertising by not paying customer to the press more and thus no consideration had to be taken.
    In the pharmaceutical industry, this again looks quite different.
    It can not be overlooked, to be urged that the trend of the male and female smokers in the asocial corner, more and more increasing.
    If in the next time John Heester with an age of 105 years and this act as a smoker, and the same situation with former Chancellor Helmut Schmidt and his wife Locki by their death is no longer a shining example that you as a smoker / even in old age can achieve, then proposes the pharmaceutical industry even harder.
    If already a Toni Roiderer as spokesman for the Oktoberfest hosts and as I am aware, as a flagship member of VEBWK, the smokers and smokers with his selfish statements already in the back is "the people will drink more and smoke less," this says it all.
    It works with all the strength of the opponents of smoking a smoke (he)-free era and towards the parties concerned have come up as the fate of resulting lambs to the slaughter.
    And that will continue to do so!
    We employed a few smokers who defend themselves, are a vanishingly small group laughed at, which can probably achieve no reversal effect more. An example shows us where the U.S. has some great non-smoking is seen as more socially acceptable.
    And since yesterday was over there in the States is the trend now spilling over into Europe and, above all to us in Germany.
    Furthermore, we must be clear to us whether we like it or not!

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    • Blue Haze

      @ Frigorist
      In part, I must give you quite unfortunately, even if it gets me pretty cold here :-)
      .
      The health lobby has a lot of money and invested heavily in the media. The corrosive propaganda against smoking is in full doors for at least 2 years in almost all media that has left its mark.

      Apparently believe many people think more of what they read and hear in the media than what they themselves see us. Sad, but true. This explains to me the 22% yes-men, which is quite a staggering figure.
      Especially in a country where "live and let live" which was once famous for and the Free State of Bavaria called.

      The second major problem is that the above listed smoking too much. Some (and there were too many!) Were not even able to vote on 4 June in the negative.
      That annoys me the most.

      Wants to sell the pharmaceuticals their own "pure" nicotine and more pills to treat depression, Parkinson's disease, obesity, etc (diseases where smoking has a positive effect), is somehow clear.
      And as the very militant NO NIM and the extremist fanatical antis of ProRauchfrei ticking, we have long known ...
      But I feel in the "vanishingly small, ridiculed group" of smokers who defend themselves, the best of hands. Want to change would in no case with the other, for nothing in this world :-)

      Even if it's a bit "far fetched" sounds like: The only constant in this world is change, this will be one of hysteria after several years of history (and created a different, new hysteria probably ...).

      The human race is unfortunately still in the kindergarten-age, hears and feels like fairy tales ...
      The few "rebels" who she is, she desperately needed!
      That is, we can not even get off :-)

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  6. Frigorist

    Bernhard ...... in your entry at 28.07. in response to the stubborn Allgäu I must say to you: "It has all the smokers supporters pulled at a rope, and this also in the same direction, but it just was not enough!"
    And the lack of lack of awareness on the part of the press was from the outset to expect otherwise, because the tobacco industry is the ban on advertising by not paying customer to the press more and thus no consideration had to be taken.
    In the pharmaceutical industry, this again looks quite different.
    It can not be overlooked, to be urged that the trend of the male and female smokers in the asocial corner, more and more increasing.
    If in the next time John Heester with an age of 105 years and this act as a smoker, and the same situation with former Chancellor Helmut Schmidt and his wife Locki by their death is no longer a shining example that you as a smoker / even in old age can achieve, then proposes the pharmaceutical industry even harder.
    If already a Toni Roiderer as spokesman for the Oktoberfest hosts and as I am aware, as a flagship member of VEBWK, the smokers and smokers with his selfish statements already in the back is "the people will drink more and smoke less," this says it all.
    It works with all the strength of the opponents of smoking a smoke (he)-free era and towards the parties concerned have come up as the fate of resulting lambs to the slaughter.
    And that will continue to do so!
    We employed a few smokers who defend themselves, are a vanishingly small group laughed at, which can probably achieve no reversal effect more. An example shows us where the U.S. has some great non-smoking is seen as more socially acceptable.
    And since yesterday was over there in the States is the trend now spilling over into Europe and, above all to us in Germany.
    Furthermore, we must be clear to us whether we like it or not!

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  7. Bernhard

    If someone has not had enough of the effusions of

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  8. Frigorist

    As I recently in the press, or was it read on the Internet, has the Passau "long-haired dachshund 'to be in his future plans, ambitions, no later than 2020 mayor of Passau.
    But this is too much of Passau inhabitants determined to shame with respect to their hometown and for that it does not even have something similar to a Bavarian referendum, which would lose that person hands down even with the votes against the fanatical militant non-smokers.
    A failed student (as you'd read) is not able to stop the ever so simple study, the existence as a guide in a small Austrian town near the German border, accept its existence, not the citizens of Passau.
    As a guide, he takes active work, which compared with a seeing eye dog at his master sehunfähigen, surpasses by far.
    Behind closed doors is allegedly whispered in the Passau area, that these plans Bavarian Indians, after his death, due to its more future planned actions, with his bust in the "Hall of Fame of the German nation," to come under the Walhalla near Regensburg.
    In this hypothetical case, the busts of Einstein, Goethe and Schiller would hastily leave the Valhalla and plunge into a panic into the nearby Danube River.
    Passau in this wild, abandoned long-haired dachshund, the attention of citizens, drawn up for a candidate of the ÖDP, the slightest move on to Passau would be determined from the Bavarian territory evacuated and relocated to Austria.
    Austria has already coped with the past decades, the "glorious" past of Braunau, are so accustomed to the Austrians then Passau.
    But as far as it will not come for sure yet!

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  9. smoki

    dolly you need urgently to take your medicine you're already Entirely role of the

    xd


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