Farmers fight against the smoking ban

Saarbrücken is the center of resistance?

In Saarland, a broad coalition is formed, which opposes the proposal by the state government massive intensification of the smoking ban. As the founder Charlie and Sabine Fuhrmann Dewies According to them, the alliance wants to advertise in the coming weeks for popular support. The goal is a referendum against the manipulation and the madness of the new ban on state government. Also on board the German Hotel and Restaurant Association (Dehoga) is.

To the Saarland to start a petition, must be revised bill is based. 5000 voters are required to initiate a referendum and a fifth of the voters, just under 170,000 people must support it.

Gudrun Pink, President of the Saarland Dehoga plans to interview up to the hearing of the proposed smoking ban in the new parliament, the hosts, as it is with job losses and revenue declines. Pink is currently expected that the new smoking ban will cost about 1,000 jobs. Also, so pink, many economists because of the old smoking ban is investing in enclosures that under the new, promoted by the Greens smoking ban would be pointless.

Sabine Dewies said at the launch of the Alliance, the Greens went Saarland with a "missionary overzealousness" to work. The contention of the Ulrich Hubert Green leaders in parliament, the people of the Saarland in the bars would have "forced passive smoking" was nothing more than populism. "No one needs to passive smoking in the Saarland, forcibly," said Dewies, but through the folly of prohibition and the Greens are existences Saarland pub culture is at stake.

In June 2008, the Saarland hosts went on the road against the smoking ban (smoking-Bavaria reported, see above link). At that time supported the FDP nor the hosts. The health policy spokesman of the FDP, Manfred Baldauf called at that time still on the hosts to take part in the rally. Literally, he said: "Mobilize as many people as possible and take part in both the march and the rally. This is your opportunity to stand up lasting for your rights and make your criticism of the current situation clearly. We are a liberal party of free enterprise, competition and self-responsibility for ourselves and future sustainable use these values ​​in society and politics. "

How quickly the FDP Saar was corrupted by the Greens, you can see today, where the FDP Saar supports the ban of green illusion of pure political calculation. The one year ago advocated "self-determination" and "free enterprise", the FDP has been sacrificed on the altar of pandering to the Greens.

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4 Comments

  1. Blue Haze

    The reality is what we make of it ....
    1) Belief any statistics that you have not faked yourself ... I walk by a smoker's share of about 30%.
    2) most restaurant owners are opposed to smoking bans, see VEBWK. Even those who want to lead a smoke-free restaurant want to have as many guests. This can not, if 70% of the population over 100% of local spread ... This is only if R and NR are local, only then will the number of guests and the consumer about the same, even if distributed differently than before.
    You know (even if the media say what else) what is happening in Ireland and else where. And they are fighting because they will not go bankrupt.

    3) it is true unfortunately, that this aggressive, mendacious anti-smoking propaganda has confused some smokers. You do not dare to say out loud that they like to smoke and that it is important to them. They now have to say anything out loud, just go to referendum and "in private" right to vote.
    That they should do, otherwise they will soon be as "subhuman" and stamped not only on the web in such a small "orange square" must face if they want to smoke.

    4) there is certainly always a "gray zone" (not just when it comes to smoking is ..) a couple want to have it, others are just beginning. First, not many, and my second, not even those who want to quit smoking so that no more people allowed! Fortunately, this is not really that bad :-)

    5) The smokers were not asked even with the referendum, only the Non smoking. When the referendum will be different, as are all required.

    6) The "reality" in this case is nothing God-given, but what we make of it.
    The "ban culture" will not be accepted if we accept them, however, we have deserved nothing better.
    We (! All, smoking and Non smoking) now have a very democratic chance to say what we want:
    - "Live and let Live" ostracize or stigmatize other people, and re-educate them thoroughly spoil the fun of life.
    - "Liberalitas Bavarie" and "Free State of Bavaria" or a totalitarian state, which expresses more and more bans, more and more of its citizens as "criminals" look and accordingly monitors, which governs the privacy and lifestyle of the people and reduces the freedom of citizens massively .
    - Civilized tolerance and reasonable compromise, considering all interests and respect for all people, even thinking if they do not and what we think is right, or states in the Middle Ages: absolutism, intolerance, stigmatization and persecution who thinks differently, "Holy Crusades" time in the name of health.

    All of us now is not imposed by some politicians that we do not like, we can sometimes exceptionally themselves directly and say what we want.

    If we confirm the Middle Ages for us to be correct, then we deserve nothing better, then we have to continue living in the Middle Ages.
    The next ban is determined, and also the following (alcohol, dangerous sports, "unhealthy" food and to be thick, driving without a special permit, meetings without "special" permission, censored Internet for adults, etc., etc.).

    The smoking ban was only the beginning to see an "experiment" to be, how far one can go. How thoroughly can the people dumbed down so it's freedoms "voluntarily" gives, without dictatorship, military and death threats ... only with massive propaganda. How is the NOW, if a majority is turned against a minority and will vote against it ... better than before or the same?

    These questions we will answer the referendum. It's only by the absolute smoking ban, without exceptions? Theoretically yes, practically, there's much more ...

    And the Bavarians have the honor to make a start. With signal effect, not only for other states but also for the next ban, already waiting in the drawer.

    The more one goes down, the less likely it is to reach the summit ...


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  2. Adam

    The reincarnation of Adam Ries calculated ...... http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Ries
    Fighters, many of the 9,360,813 voting citizens in Bavaria 1,298,746 of them with their signatures on the town halls in the petition for a Non smoking protection in all public places that led to success and therefore a referendum in Bavaria on the topic Non smoking protection, which a smoking ban is tantamount achieved.
    Was required by the signatures of at least 10% of all eligible voters, with 13.9% exceeded the target.
    Lt.. the Bavarian State Office for Statistics live in Bavaria 12.5197 million inhabitants, of which (2006) 25.6% are expected as smoking at an age over 15 years.
    Look up at the Federal Statistical Office, Living in Germany - Results of the micro-census 2005, page 65, and so adopted by
    http://www.forum-rauchfrei.de/aktuelles/mikrozensus_rauchgewohnheiten_2005_6.pdf
    5th Page, figure 41st
    If you now, young people under 18 years in the non-voting age away and also considers the expected decline in the smoking population in general, are theoretical with actual advocates for smoking less than 25% can be expected.
    Now we move still smoking from the 25% who "get rid" seriously of smoking and want to consider a Non smoking Protection Act as an auxiliary measure of its planned "quit", then at most are theoretically more than 20% available, which is a smoker in could speak with her popular vote YES to a smoking ban.
    And then are converted 1,872,162 smokers and smokers.
    Are you all really think that more than half of them up, that would push 936 000 these theoretically calculated smokers and smokers, in a vote in a referendum with a yes?
    Unlike the fanatical Non smoking for smoking bans are based on their success in the referendum therefore highly motivated that they are the number of the petition made 1,298,746 signatures have a lot on offer.
    This is expected to necessarily mean that a large number of catering operators in Bavaria, on the one hand that their restaurants with more than 75 m2 dining room area to continue to perform as a Non smoking restaurant and on the other hand, the innkeepers, who entertain with under 75 m2 dining room area of ​​her guests Primarily cover with food want to set for a total ban.
    And in addition must not be forgotten so-called great restaurateurs, which is an absolute ban on smoking in public places and therefore in the whole restaurant, then hope for the prevention of a "distortion of competition", one additional share of guests in their restaurants.
    One must consider the reality and has shown us that the majority of smokers and smokers do not bring your ass up, on smoking allowed in restaurants come in and this is to follow in the rest houses, their NO to declare a ban on smoking.
    The arrogance of some "holy warriors" for and with their fight against the smoking ban has already shown us with the referendum and proved what they bring to their feet, that is not much better said NOTHING.
    Also, most of the hosts, who have to reckon with a total ban on smoking in their restaurants with a corresponding thereto guests shrinkage sit as the bunny waiting to remain in the high grass of the meadow and in her mind absorbed the things that will somehow `s go even further.
    Many of the smokers and smokers are also considered when the restaurant is no longer allowed to smoke and we have to go to smoke in front of the door out, then this has the advantage, I smoke because of the less, I save that money and spare also still have my health. And if I can wean myself it might even quit smoking, then I'll have to get out of the propagiertem in public opinion antisocial Abfeld.
    And if anyone expects from the smokers with the "great" support the tolerant Non smoking, he'll have to see themselves as deluded as. The tolerant and moderate Non smoking will not say yes to the ban on smoking on the town halls, but also not go for / with / em NO is extra on the town halls, or at least very few of them. Finally, it is indeed the cause of smoking and they will occur even for their own interest and care for it.
    The fact is, and who over the next inevitable fact is incredulous that the future will teach a lesson.
    And who looks at my statement and in my thought process was a mistake to rule accordingly. I am very receptive and eager to learn if they are logical points of view.


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  3. Blue Haze

    We've had it!
    This is the petition was done to us already by the fanatics ... And even so bitter that they account for up to 13.9% of the population (I am not sure how many have signed up, without knowing exactly what, why "to to "), which is by far not the majority!
    86.1%, these plight NOT supported, despite the huge propaganda in the media, and this is a clear majority!
    It is also to us that many reasonable people come to the referendum vote and with NO. Prohibition against intolerance and against the "prohibition of Bavaria."

    As for the FDP: It is, unfortunately, sometimes one, sometimes different. Too bad, I've also chosen.
    But if she does not understand why they suddenly such a huge success for the Bavarian Lantagswahl had, then they will be gone in 5 years from the window. Your only chance is the freedom, the right to self-determination and to defend tolerance convincingly. With the couple of people who vote for other reasons FDP, she can not by 4% in the next election. And coming faster than you think ...


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  4. Frigorist

    Unfortunately, the reality for many farmers is quite different.
    Two restaurants in the room smoking guests often feel pushed into the Abstellkämmerlein, although the majority of times now function as a smoker.
    The Non smoking, which include friends and acquaintances Primarily cover the smoker and those from the immediate vicinity of the smoker will keep looking, mainly, yes, mainly in the smoking guest rooms.
    The guest room with the bar, the non-smokers, is packed into yawning emptiness.
    Only by traveling strangers use it as a Non smoking for their stay in these restaurants to Non smoking guest room.
    The officials of the public affairs offices adhere strictly to the requirements of the regulations and arrange them as necessary to handle, so watch strictly over the default version.
    The hosts to give up on creating their own powerlessness, for 99% of their guests at an earlier time familiar cosiness.
    In order to end it often resulting distortion of competition, many of the hosts play more or less with the idea, given the anticipated referendum for a total ban on smoking in ALL restaurants, therefore, to operate with a YES to Non smoking Protection Act of Antis.
    Restaurateurs with a host of over 75 m2 surface area and thus a legally imposed already existing ban on smoking in their restaurants, it is not to blame if they decide a yes to the absolute protection Non smoking, to a total ban on smoking in all restaurants.
    Even if the referendum failed by the antis wanted and was in favor of smoking arises, these hosts is still not helping. You are and will continue into the future with the smoking ban be punished in their restaurants.

    I also have to add:
    I come for professional reasons, as a refrigeration engineer, in many restaurants around and including it with the appropriate people together. My experience on the subject image is not out of thin air, but based on many observations and experiences made this very consequently.


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